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Development of a Mary Sue by MissLunaRose Development of a Mary Sue by MissLunaRose
I've never really understood why people would tear down someone who writes a Mary Sue. Often these writers are only children.

Don't let them win.
:bulletblue: If you see this happening, speak up! Remind people that everyone deserves to be treated politely, no matter how well they write or how long they've been writing.
:bulletblue: Contact an admin if you believe someone is being attacked.
:bulletblue: If this happens to you, block them. Bullying is not constructive criticism, and you don't deserve it. Above all, don't let them stop you from writing.

Mary Sue Safe Zone by MissLunaRose

Made to supplement this guide
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:iconflobbicus:
Flobbicus Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2016  Student General Artist
Everyone's ideas are valuable.

I am tired of people thinking they're smart because they put others down.

This has inspired me to be my best. Thank you.
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mlpfan212 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2016  Student Artisan Crafter
its so unfair for someone to get kicked down for having a mary sue
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Meyliiin Featured By Owner Edited Mar 11, 2016  Student Digital Artist
That happended to me
in my old account when I was 8 years old :'v
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Angelic-Kitsune Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Aw, no! qAq

Easily the saddest thing I've ever seen...
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Minioma Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016
Bullying is not acceptable, but people need a harsh word once in a while to show the opposite and improve themselves.
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tultsi93 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
I hate Mary Sue hunters more than Mary Sues. MS hunters are bullies instead smart people.
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ElReyTroll Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2016
si ,yo tuve una mary sue una vez
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Oddbastide Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2016
Best Mary Sue strip I've ever seen.
(Or, best strip about why people who don't like some author's character/story/both should shut the f*ck up and go read something else.)
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SunBusting Featured By Owner Edited Dec 27, 2015
I definitely agree 100%

I really try to be supportive of anyone's ocs. It's their character and not my problem. If they're happy with their character, then that's great! No one has the rights to directly backlash and verbally stomp on the artist for making them.
Yeah sure, it may get to the point where someone's character would totally irk me to an extent, but guess what? I simply just move on. No big deal. You don't even have to like mary-sues, just don't harass people who have them. You're definitely a total jerk if you do.
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Shouly-Jona Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2015
It makes me think, but i still hate them
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SnowLeopard84 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2016
There's nothing wrong with not liking Mary Sues. I certainly don't. C: Most people (besides their creators) don't like them. Bullying the author and being a jerk is inexcusable no matter what though, and Mary Sues are common targets for bullying. This comic isn't making a point that Mary Sues are good, it's just saying bullying people for them is bad, and may cause writers to quit and so therefore never improve.
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Shouly-Jona Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2016
Hate Mary Sues good because its your opinion ,but hate Mary Sues at the point to insult and bullying the author is bad, i see your point
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Gentlemen-Scientist Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i never saw a mary sue in that point of view
i shaw thank you i will never do that again ;w;
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acabaz Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
this made me sad.. :(
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SqueezeMeLittle Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Now, I've had a few mary sues in my time. I've gotten what you said, is bullying. I'm not saying that outright slander and mistreatment is a good thing. Heck, bullying isn't a good thing at all, I've been subject of much hard criticism.  I was a "child" when I got on deviantart, and "child" is a pretty loose word. I was 12, and I had fantasies that most people would say are stupid. I did bases, i traced, I did aaaaall that stupid you see around Mary sue. But, it did help me to grow up. It wasn't helping me when someone coddled me and told me my obviously bad character was good. Or that my drawings, were good. It did help when someone called me out on tracing, or saying that my drawings sucked when they did, or that I wasn't original! Remember, I'll never say bullying is good. It's not. But what I am saying, is that it helped me, with y writing, or with my creativity. it doesn't help with most, and if someone out there will stop writing after an internet troll says "This is a faggoty mary sue!" Then, I guess they weren't supposed to write in the first place. You need, NEED, to take everything you get. Famous writers, actors, and singers have had their share, and now it's out turn. 

I do love this picture, I think it handles the emotions of someone going through that well, and, i guess I wanted to share my opinion. 
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Bwolfels221 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2015
I liked it and now I'm favourite number 666
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indulcet Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree 100%. :D
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PsychoDemonFox Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
...Ouch.

I admit, I have... mixed feelings about Mary Sues. On the one hand, there are some really bad ones out there that I want to see bashed, but on the other... I realize that sometimes they do have potential to become good characters. And the people who write them might mean well, but they tend to go overboard. Speaking from experience, I used to write fanfic, but then I realized what I wrote wasn't that good. And I'm hesitant to start again because some people might call my original characters Mary Sues. I'm not opposed to constructive criticism, though it might be a blow to my ego.

...The point I'm trying to make with my ramblings is that I can see where people can go wrong with their characters, but if handled well, they can be enjoyable to read about. (Though again, I have seen some pretty obnoxious ones...)
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Navy-Blue-Falconet Featured By Owner May 30, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
At least my friends aren't bashers when critiquing.  :P
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mlpfan212 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2015  Student Artisan Crafter
how people feel if others did that to them 
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Navy-Blue-Falconet Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
They're just fine as there was no screaming whatevers. None of them whined about the Mary Sue, they just critiqued, and I wish that others can do the same.
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ShinyMisty Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2015  Student Writer
This happened to me, only replace "Mary Sue" with "grammar and spelling" and over at Fan Fiction, where people can comment anonymously, and though, cannot be removed. 
This happened early last year, and I have been deadly afraid to write ever since, even though I have some ideas that could go somewhere. Every time I start writing again, the words come back to me. "How can you CALL yourself a writer!" "You should just quit while you are ahead!" "You suck...so much." 

I honestly feel like poor little sue in the picture, and have no idea if the character I made for my story (the main character) is a Sue, and am now afraid to write him, worried I'll get the same response. 
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primakyria Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
When I was eighteen, I made a livejournal "sporking" and "critiquing" all Saiyuki Mary Sues. I said it was critique, and yeah, the stuff they wrote was pretty awful, but now that I look back at it, I realize that I really went overboard with my "critique" (to be completely honest, it just all seems really nasty now and there were even some threats of physical violence. I mean, wtf self? It's a fanfic!).

I saw this and I swear there was a tear in my eye. I might have actually destroyed someone's drive to write and get better. :( 

This just made me realize that we shouldn't be "nice" or we shouldn't "molly coddle". We should be careful when critiquing someone. They will probably get all defensive and go "NOT LISTENING LALALALA" at first, but in a few years, they'll probably realize we're right.

Thanks for this. :( It made me think about a lot of stuff. I also felt bad for Mary. 
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ZelphyrTheSecond Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lil I like how they try to make us feel bad for a Mary sue. They're perfectly boring! And fictional!
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SnowLeopard84 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2016
This piece is making a point at how attacking an author's Mary Sue affects the author. It's really trying to make you feel bad for the author. That's the problem though, that people think since the character is fictional they can attack him/her/it very harshly, but in doing so hurt the author too. Yes, Mary Sues are boring, but that doesn't excuse bullying. Though I'll admit there are some people who can't even take constructive criticism, this is making a point about people being just plain old mean.
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ZelphyrTheSecond Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, I see what you mean!
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AsianAnimeGamer Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
I believe in constructive criticism and often, I can come off as harsh. However, I really try to help creators rebuild their ocs into someone more realistic and less fat. I'm slowly trying tone down my criticisms (unless someone says something really horrible, like an intentional terrible Hetalia Israel oc because the creator was anti-Semitic), however, I'm very anti-coddlng and firmly believe that people can always change and so, my attempts to soften my hard edges can go awry. I do want to thank you for making this because I really think it helps those people who bash simply to make themselves feel better and not to help really realize that critiquing in such an aggressive and demeaning fashion is NOT ok. Thank you.
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AJInu-Okami Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I never tear down a MS character. Just want the erson to change him/her a bit so they seem like more of a realistic person. In other words, help them out and have constructive criticism. Something that most people don't seem to do, yet think cyber-bullying is the way to do it -_-
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oO-LilacPetal-Oo Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know, right?

If you haven't yet, you should make a small journal about the topic of new deviants "stealing art", when they just don't know the rules and think they can repost, and don't know how to credit. I've had a similar case with someone who "stole" Kawiku's art when he/she just didn't know what they were doing. Everyone was yelling at them, saying "THIEF" and "YOU'RE GETTING BANNED!" while I was the only person who calmly approached them, explaining how DA works. They credited Kawiku, and I think that the yelling is over now, hopefully.
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shysammmie Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015
Sadly people are to blind by their anger to see the potential in every character has potential , they just have to see it . ( gives you a box full of cookies )
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1520san Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2015
Wow. I wanna cry for little Mary. ;; A ;;
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:iconmisslunarose:
MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2015   General Artist
Yeah, it's really sad that this happens. :hug:
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1520san Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2015
Very. ;; Though I never thought of it this way. This art made alot of sense, like a thousand words, telling a story. Great job!! *^*)b
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Sly-the-F0X Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015
Man that happened to me once.it's called constructive criticism,not cyber bullying!
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MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2015   General Artist
Indeed! If you can't say something nice (solicited constructive criticism counts as being nice), then there's no need to say anything at all.
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Riolumon Featured By Owner Edited Jan 18, 2015  Professional Writer
I just became a victim of this shit not literally 10 minutes ago. CAN WE JUST NOW CALL THIS INTERNET ART RACISM FROM NOW ON? Because here is my first thought on Mary Sue www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxt9P… F***ING NO! 

(For fucks sake I'm god damn 18)
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MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2015   General Artist
I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you, and I hope you're doing fine.
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:iconriolumon:
Riolumon Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2015  Professional Writer
Yeah I'm good. In fact I made so much sense to the other person about creativity that I literally made her cry. Creativity is not a balance it is a right. Otherwise we are just mindless animals who want to impress a heartless master.
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Lola-Rola Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014
I know right,I mean,seriously.Mary-Sues are not that bad!ESPECIALLY if there are an oc(not fc)
Plus why are people being bashed for making mary-sues,sure mary-sues are bad but not that bad!Remember guys the people who make these characters are most likely LITTLE CHILDREN!like I don't know 8-13!They don't know better than to make their ocs overpowered.They are beginners,you have to be easy on them.Say it like this "Hello,I would like to help you improve your character by-" not like this "MARY SUE!MARYSUEMARYSUEMARYSU BURN IT WITH FIRE!" Dude your going to crush his/her feelings.take it easy on them,they are just children.

That is all.
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MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015   General Artist
Indeed! It's much better to use constructive criticism, or to simply ignore them and go read someone else's work. :aww:
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NuttyJimmyFan Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
When I was nine, I wrote an 86 page story with the main character as a Mary Sue named Miranda. Everyone hated my story and told me so. 
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MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015   General Artist
That's too bad! :hug: Who hates on a nine-year-old's story? Seriously, that's not the way to do it.

Nine is a very young age to start writing long stories—you must be quite talented by now! My first novel began after I turned 11. :D (And yes, total Mary Sue.)
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CometStarlightPony Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Student Digital Artist
May I tell you about my old OC?

Her name was Starlight Glow, and she was a 6-year old alicorn filly, and her mane was hot pink and her coat was pure white. She became an orphan and homeless, and one day, she was looking for some food in the castle grounds and suddenly, Celestia walked out! Her crown was glowing and Star realized she was her destiny to be Celestia's daughter , so she got her cutie mark for magic and being beautiful! Celestia immediately became her mother! So did Luna! But Celestia and Luna were too busy, and they didn't have enough time for her. So they sent her to Twilight Sparkle with a perfected transportation spell. As soon as she got there, Spike was about to fall from the tallest bookcase in the library! But Starlight saved him, and he gave up on Rarity and fell madly in love with her! Then she did the 3 most beautiful and perfect and fastest Sonic Rainbooms ever! Then with the rest of the mane 6, she taught bunnies to fly, made wonderful dresses, bucked zapp apples even though they were out of season, threw an awesome party, and read all the books in the library and perfected all the spells at the age of 7! Then when she was 21, she married Spike.
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NyanWulf02 Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
That reminds me of my first MLP OC, Silver Shy. She pretty much has the same colors as Silver Spoon and a mane style exactly like Fluttershy. She was raised by Timberwolves in the Everfree Forest , and Fluttershy found her in the bushes. She took the filly to Zecora who visioned that she give her the name, "Silver Shy." After that Fluttetshy adopted her. Many years later she tamed a dragon and was granted Alicorn-ness by Princess Luna. I even wrote a whole BBBFF Parody with Silver Shy and Fluttershy.

I'm SO glad I trashed her. ;u;
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MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015   General Artist
Wow! :giggle: That's quite the character! I think you may have topped my worst Mary Sues, ha ha.
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Priscellia Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Agreed, and to be honest, some Mary Sue fics are fun to read, I find them funny and exciting most of the time, because some well-balanced characters are so boring and cliche (no offense, just some but not all), and I can think these Sue authors could be helped and adviced nicely to make a better and well-balanced character.

Ex: instead of 'mary sue alert here', go with 'nice story but I suggest you work more on the character by giving it some flaws'
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MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015   General Artist
Yeah! :) Harry Potter always struck me as a bit of a Mary Sue, but look how many people love that series. My brother also admits that one of his favorite TV shows has a completely overpowered Mary Sue as the protagonist, but he still thinks it's amazing. Sometimes it's fun to follow a power fantasy, and sometimes people are willing to suspend disbelief for a story they enjoy.

I agree—either offer gentle constructive critique, or if the writer doesn't want critique, just stay quiet about it. :D
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Priscellia Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
All I just wanted is to make a unique story, where the female is the protagonist or main antagonist
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MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015   General Artist
Sounds like a noble goal! I want to do the same. (I have a story in which both the protagonist and main antagonist are female. :lol:)
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Priscellia Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know right! I was planning onto making a female who is creative and also silly, then when she dropped her pen in the alleyway, she went into the alleyway and saw ghosts. Its all about ghost hunting, weapon making and ghost gangsters and stuff XD
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